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According to www.tcbets.com, one can only win 300:1 on Pick-3s, Pick-4s, Trifectas, Superfectas, Pick-6s. Any punter who has played horses for more than a summer knows this is an outrageous limitation! Anyone who signs up with tcbets.com doesn't understand this rule or doesn't attempt for the occassional big bet. Next?
What are my limits?
"We offer the highest limits in the world. Full track odds on Win, Place, Show and up to 300-1 on all exotic wagers. Maximum payoff on any race is $25 000."
http://www.tcbets.com/racetrack_wagering_frequently_asked_questions_.html
According to www.tcbets.com, one can only win 300:1 on Pick-3s, Pick-4s, Trifectas, Superfectas, Pick-6s. Any punter who has played horses for more than a summer knows this is an outrageous limitation! Anyone who signs up with tcbets.com doesn't understand this rule or doesn't attempt for the occassional big bet. Next?
What are my limits?
"We offer the highest limits in the world. Full track odds on Win, Place, Show and up to 300-1 on all exotic wagers. Maximum payoff on any race is $25 000."
http://www.drf.com/misc/bom.html
A good read and can be found @ drf.com:
Betting On Myself
Adventures of a Horseplayer and Publisher
By Steven Crist
Price: $24.95
Hardcover-Item #1805 244-Pages
Publisher: DRF Press
Pub. Date: August 2003
:: Order Online
:: Order toll-free: 1-800-306-FORM (3676)
:: Table of Contents and Excerpts
UPCOMING BOOK SIGNINGS
:: Del Mar - Saturday, Aug. 30th - 12:30 p.m.
:: Earth Song Bookstore, Del Mar, CA - Saturday, Aug. 30th - 7:30 p.m.
:: Cal Expo-Sacramento Fair - Monday, Sep. 1 - time TBD
American Thoroughbred racing today is enjoying a renaissance, attracting a record $15 billion a year in wagers to an industry that has undergone radical changes since the glory days of Seabiscuit and Secretariat. Crist has been at a the forefront of some of those changes, and Betting on Myself not only explores the transformation of the sport but also tells a deeply personal story of his own journey through it.
Crist, who grew up in a Manhattan milieu of newspaper reporters and press agents and played the piano in jazz bars as a teenager, begins his story with his days at Harvard. Studying the mysteries of the Metaphysical poets was soon replaced by a daily pursuit of racetrack winners, and his growing obsession with racing, betting, statistics, and newspapers took him down an unusual path: a decade as a sports reporter and columnist for The New York Times; launching a new horse-racing newspaper with legendary publisher Robert Maxwell; betting $1 million a year playing the pick six while advising Mario Cuomo on racing policy, and even helping to operate New York's Aqueduct, Belmont, and Saratoga racetracks. Finally, after turning 40 and suffering a heart attack, he engineered an audacious bid to buy the Daily Racing Form for $40 million while living off his credit cards.
Author Steve Crist's unique memoir takes readers through his personal journey into journalism, gambling, politics and high finance. Whether you're someone who has never seen a Kentucky Derby or a veteran horseplayer trying to turn a profit in a changing game, Betting on Myself is an unprecedented and compelling tale.
"Whether he is planning the pick six, running the Daily Racing Form, or chiding the industry's leaders, Steve Crist has a passionate love of the game. "Betting on Myself is a wonderful memoir."
Andrew Beyer
Washington Post Columnist
"Sharp, funny, informative-one of the best books you'll ever read about this game."
William Murray
Author of the Tip on a Dead Crab and The Wrong Horse
"Steven Crist's journey through the multi-tiered world of Thoroughbred racing-from grandstand habitue to New York Times turf writer to Racing Times founder to editor and publisher of the Daily Racing Form, with a host of celebrated gambling triumphs along the way-is so uniquely creative in its sweep and scope that it quite defies anything that the sport has ever seen. The man is as tenacious as he is brilliant. In Betting on Myself, Crist tells the tale of his remarkable journey with style, grace, and a story-teller's art."
William Nack
Author of My Turf: Horses, Boxers, Blood Money and the Sporting Life and Secretariat: The Making of a Champion
Table of Contents and Excerpts
Chapter 1 - Going To The Dogs
Chapter 2 - Excerpt: The Education Of A Horseplayer
Chapter 3 - Getting Up To Speed
Chapter 4 - King Of The Pick Six
Chapter 5 - Substance Over Form
Chapter 6 - Turning Pro
Chapter 7 - The Odd Couple
Chapter 8 - Returning To Form
A good read and can be found @ drf.com:
Betting On Myself
Adventures of a Horseplayer and Publisher
By Steven Crist
Price: $24.95
Hardcover-Item #1805 244-Pages
Publisher: DRF Press
Pub. Date: August 2003
:: Order Online
:: Order toll-free: 1-800-306-FORM (3676)
:: Table of Contents and Excerpts
UPCOMING BOOK SIGNINGS
:: Del Mar - Saturday, Aug. 30th - 12:30 p.m.
:: Earth Song Bookstore, Del Mar, CA - Saturday, Aug. 30th - 7:30 p.m.
:: Cal Expo-Sacramento Fair - Monday, Sep. 1 - time TBD
American Thoroughbred racing today is enjoying a renaissance, attracting a record $15 billion a year in wagers to an industry that has undergone radical changes since the glory days of Seabiscuit and Secretariat. Crist has been at a the forefront of some of those changes, and Betting on Myself not only explores the transformation of the sport but also tells a deeply personal story of his own journey through it.
Crist, who grew up in a Manhattan milieu of newspaper reporters and press agents and played the piano in jazz bars as a teenager, begins his story with his days at Harvard. Studying the mysteries of the Metaphysical poets was soon replaced by a daily pursuit of racetrack winners, and his growing obsession with racing, betting, statistics, and newspapers took him down an unusual path: a decade as a sports reporter and columnist for The New York Times; launching a new horse-racing newspaper with legendary publisher Robert Maxwell; betting $1 million a year playing the pick six while advising Mario Cuomo on racing policy, and even helping to operate New York's Aqueduct, Belmont, and Saratoga racetracks. Finally, after turning 40 and suffering a heart attack, he engineered an audacious bid to buy the Daily Racing Form for $40 million while living off his credit cards.
Author Steve Crist's unique memoir takes readers through his personal journey into journalism, gambling, politics and high finance. Whether you're someone who has never seen a Kentucky Derby or a veteran horseplayer trying to turn a profit in a changing game, Betting on Myself is an unprecedented and compelling tale.
"Whether he is planning the pick six, running the Daily Racing Form, or chiding the industry's leaders, Steve Crist has a passionate love of the game. "Betting on Myself is a wonderful memoir."
Andrew Beyer
Washington Post Columnist
"Sharp, funny, informative-one of the best books you'll ever read about this game."
William Murray
Author of the Tip on a Dead Crab and The Wrong Horse
"Steven Crist's journey through the multi-tiered world of Thoroughbred racing-from grandstand habitue to New York Times turf writer to Racing Times founder to editor and publisher of the Daily Racing Form, with a host of celebrated gambling triumphs along the way-is so uniquely creative in its sweep and scope that it quite defies anything that the sport has ever seen. The man is as tenacious as he is brilliant. In Betting on Myself, Crist tells the tale of his remarkable journey with style, grace, and a story-teller's art."
William Nack
Author of My Turf: Horses, Boxers, Blood Money and the Sporting Life and Secretariat: The Making of a Champion
Table of Contents and Excerpts
Chapter 1 - Going To The Dogs
Chapter 2 - Excerpt: The Education Of A Horseplayer
Chapter 3 - Getting Up To Speed
Chapter 4 - King Of The Pick Six
Chapter 5 - Substance Over Form
Chapter 6 - Turning Pro
Chapter 7 - The Odd Couple
Chapter 8 - Returning To Form
Adval,
You are correct - $600 max on your $2 bet!!! No point in betting any good exotics with these limits. Hence the reason I jog down to the track to make REAL bets
It took me a while but I am also learning all of the limitations of these horse sites....and there are many! I can't count the number of "surprises " that I have had since my start. And IF you hit a big tri, do not be surprised to hear "sorry, your bet was past post" as the reason for them not paying you! lmfao
HERE is how I REALLY feel about the offshore books and their horsebetting setups (which SEEM more like a "second line of business" to their "other" endeavours at many places.
I'll try and keep this as short as possible.
a) Listing 70, 80 tracks and then when you go to bet one, it IS NOT ON THE LIST!!! BS!!!!
b) hit a decent payout and there always seems to be a good reason for not paying you (in racing it will be PP)
c) cannot connect for your bet so you try and PHONE it in. Either it takes 10 mins to get from customer service rep to ACTUAL order taker OR they take your bet and NEVER ACTUALLY PLACE IT !!!!!
d) website "freezes up" later at night and nobody at betting service to help you!!!
e) website refuses to accept certain bets with tracks that they list as participating tracks.
IN SHORT - I have grown tired of putting $100 into an account with a new book to "test it out" only to discover yet another fiasco. I have ONE or TWO tracks (Harness racing) that I spend most of my time on and I THINK that I have that offered there UNTIL I go to bet! Then what happens is I piss my money away on other tracks that I play out of boredom and the inability to do what I started out to do.
I should have looked for a book that would give me that "$100 startup" to PROVE that they had what it takes to get real money!
(I know, not bloody likely!)
I am tired of pissing around with it personally.
Good luck in your hunt.
You may just have to do what I am doing now .....drive to the track 4 days a week!
sds
[This message was edited by sds on September 14, 2003 at 06:57 PM.]
[This message was edited by sds on September 14, 2003 at 07:00 PM.]
You are correct - $600 max on your $2 bet!!! No point in betting any good exotics with these limits. Hence the reason I jog down to the track to make REAL bets
It took me a while but I am also learning all of the limitations of these horse sites....and there are many! I can't count the number of "surprises " that I have had since my start. And IF you hit a big tri, do not be surprised to hear "sorry, your bet was past post" as the reason for them not paying you! lmfao
HERE is how I REALLY feel about the offshore books and their horsebetting setups (which SEEM more like a "second line of business" to their "other" endeavours at many places.
I'll try and keep this as short as possible.
a) Listing 70, 80 tracks and then when you go to bet one, it IS NOT ON THE LIST!!! BS!!!!
b) hit a decent payout and there always seems to be a good reason for not paying you (in racing it will be PP)
c) cannot connect for your bet so you try and PHONE it in. Either it takes 10 mins to get from customer service rep to ACTUAL order taker OR they take your bet and NEVER ACTUALLY PLACE IT !!!!!
d) website "freezes up" later at night and nobody at betting service to help you!!!
e) website refuses to accept certain bets with tracks that they list as participating tracks.
IN SHORT - I have grown tired of putting $100 into an account with a new book to "test it out" only to discover yet another fiasco. I have ONE or TWO tracks (Harness racing) that I spend most of my time on and I THINK that I have that offered there UNTIL I go to bet! Then what happens is I piss my money away on other tracks that I play out of boredom and the inability to do what I started out to do.
I should have looked for a book that would give me that "$100 startup" to PROVE that they had what it takes to get real money!
I am tired of pissing around with it personally.
Good luck in your hunt.
You may just have to do what I am doing now .....drive to the track 4 days a week!
sds
[This message was edited by sds on September 14, 2003 at 06:57 PM.]
[This message was edited by sds on September 14, 2003 at 07:00 PM.]
